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The Wrong Guy (1997)

  • David Steinberg
  • Dave Foley
  • David Higgins
  • Jay Kogen
Duration
1h 31m
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Director
David Steinberg
Cinematographer
David A. Makin
Writer
David Anthony Higgins, Jay Kogen, Dave Foley
Editor
Christopher Cooper
Runtime
92 min

Transcript

12,944 words

[0:01]

Hello, and welcome to... Oh, this is the Hollywood Pictures. Yes. Hollywood Pictures. Hello, and welcome to the Wrong Guy Commentary. Oh, yes. 20th anniversary edition. Yes. You're sitting here with Dave Higgins. Hi. One of the stars and one of the writers. Yeah, that's me. David Steinberg. The director, David Foley, one of the stars and one of the writers, and Jake Hogan, one of the writers. And a big player. And he does play a very important role in the film. And so does David, by the way. I do. No spoilers. Oh, that's Dave's name. That's your name, Dave. Can we get any of the sound in the headsets? Softly. Do you want it brought up a little bit? This is our Lawrence Schrag. Right, Lawrence Schrag's soundtrack and the great sort of... bass bass yes you know uh rankin bass rankin bass uh title sequence it's not them but we tried to rip them off we totally did uh the idea being a being kind of a hitchcock yes well we we we yeah we have all of canada's top shakespearean actresses including myself you would include yourself in that group yes yeah i'm really canada's top really yeah top So, gentlemen, what made us write this movie? I asked you to. Right, okay. That was part of it, wasn't it? Oh, there's David Bacon, great director of photography, also one of the many Davids on the production team. We are executive producers. Oh, yes, you were starting to say it was an idea. That's the guy, Martin Walters, that's the guy who wouldn't give us money, right? Yeah, we were already... Do we need that joke? On every joke. Do we need that joke? John Slann, yes. John Slann. We bankrupted. Oh, look at that. Look at that. But the idea was we were already behind budget before we started. Correct. We wrote too big a movie. But they bought it already. Now, this scene, we shot everything that we shot. We shot in Toronto. Yep. Right. And is your nephew in the elevator on this one or your assistant at the time, David? My nephew. Right, right? Very good, David. In this elevator? Yes. This is the one where he's in the... Yeah. If you look closely, I was also on that elevator. Oh, right. Yeah. Right. Right. It was Lewis. Yes, Lewis. Oh, I love this opening. This is great. This is really good. Much shorter haircut back then, Dave. I know, I'm going to really get back to that. You looked very attractive there, didn't you? I've seen this as a director. Well, yeah, but the thing is, you're looking at him now, and he's aged horribly. So that's part of it. He was the cute one at this time. Yeah. Having been in many testing sessions since we did this movie, Starting a movie where everyone hates the lead character. Doesn't test well? Does not test well, no. Everybody is told in a very blatant way, do not like this main character. When you are given a test score later, rate it low. Ah. Promotion's being announced today, and I think I know who's going to get it. I like that no one gives him any clue that they agree with him at all. On anything. I think he's wrong. But also they don't warn him. No. Because they kind of know. They just know in general. He would never. Righto. Yeah. It's a happy day for me. Are you hearing the movie? A little bit. You want it brought up a little bit? Yeah. You can hear the movie a little bit more. Yeah. We'll take a little more. Here we go. Here's one of Canada's finest Shakespearean actors. Kenneth Welsh. Yep. Kenneth Welsh. Yeah. And my dear friend Dan Redican, who is the Canadian comedy troupe The Frantics. That's good. Of course, right behind me is my friend Mike Wilmot, who is a fantastic stand-up comedian. One of the best. Oh, is that? I didn't know. Yeah, he's amazing. He's a huge star in England now. Well, so far, the production is gorgeous. It looks good. It looks really good, yeah. It's well worth the 20-year wait. Yes. Ken is the new president. What? I don't know how to say it any more clearly. Ken is the new president. Of course, yeah. Ken is named after Ken Daly. Yes, a good friend of ours. And Mike, and I'm named after Steve Hibbert. Yeah. Well, Nelson, I don't know why we chose... Nelson Hibbert. Yeah, we gave Nelson... Because we didn't want to give him the complete credit. No. Everything in my power to suck up to you to get this promotion. My God, man, I am engaged to your daughter. Yes, but Daly here is engaged to my favorite daughter, Daphne. What kind of a man has a favorite daughter? Now, moving on. If you do have a favorite, then you should label them favorite and not favorite. I know, we're just enjoying it. I know. I don't know. Well, it's been a while. I haven't seen it since our last thing. It's better than I thought. Yeah. My son saw this movie yesterday. Did he? For the first time. Yeah. He thought it was really funny. Oh, good. He thought it was also pretty stupid. Also, yeah. Right. Right. I lied. This was... Go to hell, you bastard! Now, that is quite an... We lost the battle to make it fucker. Right. Yeah, yeah, we couldn't say that. That's true. Right. Because Disney was... Hollywood Pictures was owned by Disney. Of course. They allowed us two? Yes. Yeah. And yet wouldn't distribute it anywhere. Right, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, they said if it had more fuckers in it, they would have done it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I will leave here now. They're not very good security guys. No. No, they're very weak. They have very weak wrists. Well, we noticed the Canadians didn't like to do stuff full speed. Right. No. We had a little... Some of the stunts. Remember, I have to ask them to go faster? Yeah. I thought we could speed it up in post. Jump out of a movie? They're all talking to each other. One of my favorite moments is everyone literally laughing at him. That was like... You're crying and they're laughing.

[6:40]

The Canadians are so nasty, aren't they? They're the worst. Now, I still, to this day, get letters and emails from people, generally college students, saying this is their favorite movie of all time. Really? I hear that from Seth Rogen. Yes, yeah. He's Canadian. Comedy people love the movie. That was the thing. When we screened it, it's a hit. You've done it. You've knocked it out of the park. I remember Mike Myers at a screening said, you made the movie we all wanted to make. And eventually he made it with Love Guru, so it all worked out.

[7:32]

What a youthful profile. Oh, God, you were young. I remember I only gave you one note over and over again, which was, bigger. Which you were good at. This is my favorite. The banana-ing out. Too big a wide. And this, yeah. Okay. And when we hired this assistant, did we know that she was fluid? He or she was fluid? Mm-hmm. Gender fluid, you mean? Gender fluid. Transgender? Yes. I don't think we did. I don't think we did, but then eventually we figured it out. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I think it was pretty obvious. It wasn't to me, but I have a very bad radar about that sort of thing. So do I, but... Jason thinks I'm a man. Yes, that's right. Your treatment of me is completely unacceptable, and I just... Would you stop staring at me like that? Again, one of Canada's top actors. He's doing very well. I believe that he's dead. It's fun now when I watch something, I know it was shot in Toronto because I recognize everyone. We used everyone. They're all in the same movies. And we used everybody. You win, all right? Big man, you win, all right? The point still remains that you had absolutely no...

[9:04]

Now, you came up with the premise of a guy on the run from no one. Yes. Right? Yes. On the run from no one. Yeah. And that where they know who the real killer is. Know who the killer is and he just runs. Yes. And we did have scenes that had the girlfriend in it. But coming up as, yeah, this is. And we have Mark. Yeah, but I remember giving you a note to. Play everything like a seventh grader. I do love this. Trying to put the knife back in. This was improvised. And it was genius. Put it back. Of course. Why wouldn't you put it back? That's where you found it. And I believe it was written.

[9:59]

Nice little push in there, David.

[10:20]

Now, the level of blood that you have there, quite a reasonable little bit level of blood. Not that bad. Not Hitchcockian by any stretch of the imagination. But much later somehow it becomes much more bloody. Well, it's quite possible. Look how strong he was. He could pull himself up. Well, that becomes a point in the script as well. But even when we were writing it, you and I were saying, like, we couldn't pull ourselves up in this thing. And this was the regional police office for Hamilton on... What was it? Newmarket? I think it was Newmarket. This is a very Jerry Lewis moment. All the extras are just waiting. No particular reaction. Very good-natured Canadian. There's Lewis. This was in that corner over there, right? I'm also in there. Oh, I didn't notice you. Yeah, I was also in there. This, we went through a lot of machinations about exactly what the plan was to escape. Yeah. Right, and then it became what we could do. Right. Yeah. But we did have what comes up later planned out, and that worked well. Right. But it became Culligan because we could clear that. Right, yeah. Culligan allowed us to be there. Right.

[11:48]

There's Lewis, right? That old guy's your nephew? No, no, no, no. The goateed gentleman. And when we were shooting this, I was pretending to be angry. that it wasn't about the guy with the goatee. Would you tell that guy? We did throw the Canadian crew off. He went from one jumpsuit to another jumpsuit for no reason at all. Yeah, there was no reason for the change. And it took us so long. But we like the idea that he went through all this stuff to not be followed, and then there's security cameras. I think we cut out in editing like four other things that he did. Oh, that's quite possible. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then that gentleman had some lines before the... The hold the door, that was... That's hilarious, I love that. The bloody hand is great too. I seem very angry at all those people. They're not doing anything. This was nice. Oh, and this was a lot of production. A lot of production there. Yeah, props department. But then we have this amazing shot. You'll see. It's like Star Wars. My favorite thing, though, that we didn't do is we actually had a lock on that case, and he had a key that he actually had to put together before he... Oh, that's right. We didn't do that. All right, the assembled key. Just a funny joke. Yeah. Well, we tried to have a few jokes in it. Remember, we shot in all the places they told us we couldn't go. Really? You said we couldn't be here? Yeah. Don't go up there. Oh, the production. They didn't want to pay for it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The city of Toronto didn't say don't come here. Our budget was already blown before we started production. But then we were also in profit partway through the shoot. That's true, yeah. Because we assumed foreign sales. Foreign sales to Germany. But they were all contingent on a U.S. release. Right. Which didn't happen. So at this point we were going, ah, we're... We're golden. Right. Nobody told me about the profit thing, so I didn't get upset when that didn't happen. Yeah, we were in profit. That was a real stunt. Yeah. And that was Jeff Sessions. No, no, no, no. That wasn't Jeff Sessions. And also, you're dating this whole thing. He'll be long dead by the time people see this. Yeah, this is the gag that I thought was great. And it's really a Warner Brothers cartoon. Yeah, yeah. It's Roadrunner. Fake manhole. Premise now set. That's the moment. But I just love how well that worked. And then we had the diaper service on the side. Is that what we end up with? Which I think we couldn't show it. It just didn't work in editing. But it said on the side, like, bitey weed, diaper service. And this is one of my favorite gags. It's another great gag. This is fun. What's he going to do? Charlie, my son, brought up, how did he pay for the hotel room? I said, I had no money. No, I had money. No, no, we figured what happened is we lost that scene where he earned the money doing the fence. I mean, the painting the house. We lost that. The hotel room, I think, was before the fence. No, you'll see. No, no, no, before the fence, but after what would have been the painting the house and fed the rats. Oh, the lady. We had a, yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, that's right. Which was Maria... Yeah, Maria Vakratis. Yeah, which we had to cut, but was a hilarious scene. Which was a good scene. That was a good scene. Oh, God, who's this? This guy's young. Young, yeah. Mm-hmm. Not doing anything right. Who's that? No. Making such wrong choices, including the jacket. But what I do am amazed by is we have some shots of the back of my head, no bald spot. No. Mm-hmm. Thickest hair. That was, we spent... Yeah. I don't know how many thousands of dollars to digitally remove the bald spot from your head. It was amazing. What? It was there? No. I think most of the budget went into the bald spot removal. And whenever I came to the set, Dave Higgins would say, out of his way, out of his way. Like I'm sensitive to being touched. Do not look at him. Yeah, don't look at him. No eye contact. The audience won't know and maybe probably doesn't care about, but during the filming of this movie, some of the best part of it was going out to dinner with David Steinberg. That's true, that's true. Every night. Much bigger celebrity than anybody else. That restaurant with all the erotic art. Right. Some Italian weird restaurant. Oh, and also, David was renting that amazing house. Yes. He was the owner of Roots. Yeah, he was the Roots owner. Oh, and this was supposed to be... We had a masturbation scene in this. Right. Where Ken was going to... And he'd shot it and did a great job. And then Disney said we couldn't. And then we added, like, yeah. We heard it. We just had the sound. But you saw him. Right. Yes. Which was... And he saw below the waist. No, no, you didn't see his penis. He saw him at the desk masturbating and staring at the camera. Yeah. Which was creepy. Oh, he knew we were watching. But Hollywood Pictures, which went bankrupt... Yes. Steven Page. Made a point of not letting us do masturbation. This is the broke your ankle. Steven Page from Bare Naked Ladies. David broke his ankle doing that stunt that you just saw. Yes. On the second take. Yeah. On the first take. And they were thrilled. Let me do one more. Yeah. And this is the Bare Naked Ladies when they were still all together. Yeah. Yes. And they wrote an original song for the movie that they sing for us. Yeah. Here it is. Well, and also, when we put more and more trash, we didn't like how clean it was. It was too clean. And I think we had a shot, it doesn't show up, but he ate a donut. He ate a donut that was in there. It might still be in this. I can't remember, but... Who, Calm Fiora? Who, Calm? No, me. No, Dave, man. Like, this horrible, like, trash-covered donut. Oh. Yeah. Police have released surveillance camera footage showing the grisly murder. After all his work. Right. Yeah. He didn't know there was a camera. Yeah. It's not his fault. Mm-hmm. And this was the kind of thing where we had another scene, but he had to do everything in the phone booth. Mm-hmm. Because the budget didn't allow for anything else. Yeah. Mm-hmm. not only double the money, I'll have to spend the next couple of years out of the country. Meet me on the 23rd, 12 noon, Mr. Tynes. He's got a great radio voice. Mm-hmm. Yeah, yeah. It's a very catchy song. Yeah, you can see that we put a lot of, like, real trash in there. And the Canadians were sure that it was all clean trash. They don't like trash. No. No. Very bad luck. that Nelson Hibbert had. Yeah. Just policemen just never leaving. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I think that was the point. Yeah. You know, that we were playing that up. He was the hero. Yeah. I'm just watching as a viewer now. Oh, okay. All right. All right. That's fine, too, I guess. When did you see it last, Jay? Probably about four years ago. Yeah. One writer's room I was working in wanted to watch it with me. They really liked the movie. Oh, wow. Made for writers. Wow, you were in a writer's room. That's great. Yeah, I showed it to my daughter a little while ago. Yes? Yeah, and she liked it. Charlie said it was dumb. And we originally had scenes, I'm sorry, where you saw the actual girl leaving and not caring that he called. She's with another guy. We had a make-out scene with her and some other... While she's listening to this, I believe... Yes, there was. She's making out with some other dude. Yeah. He was saying goodbye. Nothing went right for that guy. No, it really didn't. He wasn't very well liked. All of his expectations were defeated. And he didn't deserve to be liked. No, that's true, too. Oh, our own writing makes us laugh.

[20:39]

We love this, that he had to think that it's a stilt. Right. His code was 1111. And then he's already caught. Which probably is most people's code. Yeah, it is, apparently. Very common. The other thing is that we love the idea that he should have just taken the money at that point because it's already been shown. Yeah. And we wanted the idea that he had no cash. Yeah. And he throws away everything, I believe. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And they throw the money. Oh, there's his money. All right. I kept the money. Right. And then you keep this picture. No, he keeps this photo because it's a funny photo he likes. Thank goodness. Yeah. Hi. Look how much blood he has now. It's much more blood. Is there more blood? Yeah. I don't know. Look, that's my way. That's not consistent. All right, all right. That is not consistent amount of blood. I think you were doing continuity, Jim, that day. So I'm glad you pointed out now. It's a little late. Look at the amount of blood there. Can't reshoot it. Now he's clean. Well, we love that. I love that. I love that scene. The idea that every movie where they just wash off and the suit's now all clean. Here it just stayed there. People didn't want to see a bloody guy for the rest of the movie. I get that. Mm-hmm. I never would have thought of that. Good, Dave. That's good. Thank you. That's very good, really. Thank you. I do like the line. I want to get into this cat's head. I'm like, get in this cat's head. Charlie quoted that back today. The idea of just eating his meal. He's trying to get a free meal. Yeah. And with that, our... Our B story is set in motion. Yeah, yes, yes. We're, yeah, every chance. What's another? It's a very good one. And I have, I'm working on a horribly sprained ankle at this point. That's right. Yeah, yeah. Torn ligaments on both sides of my ankle. We shut down for a week, didn't we? No, two days. Two days, okay. So I'm on, yeah. He's on complain medicine. Yeah. Yeah. And then this, we never replaced this audio, but this is me as the announcer of the jazz. Our villain listens to jazz, which is good. I don't think we had that in the script. We just figured after. No, this was in the script, I believe. But then we were going to use somebody. But when we were doing the mix, it was like, I'll just do a temp track and then... And this works well. This was hard to explain to people. How hard it was. It was very hard to shoot. Because we needed the idea of Dave just seeing his reflection and that he's looking at... That was it. I think it is. Yeah. Oh, no, there's just something in his eye. There we go. Yeah, yeah. Jazz. Some sort of jazz ensemble. I don't see anything over here. Because he's not the normal announcer. That's the thing. Which was written in there, I think, as that. It's like a Bob Newhart kind of voice. Well, it's almost by Jerry Lewis. Some kind of jazz. He's now relaxed. He knows he's got a big bus right ahead of him. And then... This is a big deal. Guest star here. This is a cameo from Jay. That's me. That's me. A young Jay Kogan. Yeah. the most unbelievable bus driver ever seen. Well, I do remember at the time that the bus driver, the guy who brought the bus in, Dave Jay wanted to drive it. And he made a big point of, this is a very expensive vehicle. You can't just drive it. Yeah, $5,000 used bus. Well, Prozis is in the town. It's a proposed town. But then the Depression came along, and anyway, this is your stop, so get out. Told me to lean. Eyes on Jay. Jay, lean in a little bit more. You could have given me an angle. Well, it was hard enough. We tried. We really tried. And the bus was hard to shoot in, to be honest. I mean, you should have cheated out. You could say that. Cheat a little bit more towards camera. Well, there was a point. We just didn't want to push the performance. On this, we had the huge, long... Right. We started from the kitchen. And my ankle was hurting from gout at this point. But we went through a whole thing of the Goodfellas opening and this really long shot. Yeah, all the way through, all the way up. And then we ended up cutting. But we shot it like 14 times going through. You know this, man? Everyone's so quiet. It was one of the better scenes. I think we're seeing the scene that this was as shot. Didn't we do a topless version? There was a no pasties version. Right. Yeah. With Dave not wearing pasties. No, no, no. The actress, I believe. You know, but she... I wish I remembered her name because she's lovely. Lovely. Oh, and this is fun. This is fun. Very controversial about how to do the upcoming vomiting. Do we show it? Do we not show it? Oh, right, right, right, right. How much is too far? A little. Right. It's too much. Well, there you go. Well, it's because that's now a controversy now that people have stopped doing it. You either really show it beyond the pale of reason or don't show it at all. Yes, beyond the pale of reason makes it funny. And we chose to not show it at all. You Mr. Creosote it. Yes. Right. And that was just because they invented that machine. I do love that. The giant toadstool. and then vomiting immediately. I'm still on board with maybe seeing a little vomit. I don't know. That's me. Well, at least... And this is where this chin... Yeah. Yes. And this is originally where it would have led into the Maria Vakrantzit scene. Right. Yes, and that's where he would have earned the money that pays for the hotel later. And again, this kind of gag, I don't know how audiences feel about this, but we love this personally. It was the idea he... He disappears, suddenly his department does so much better. So much better. Yes. And no one notices he's gone. No one notices he's gone. He even says, yeah, I ran into him in the washroom. Again, him being on the run, yet not really. Yeah. Not a wanted man. No. What? That's the same distinctive Jeep that the killer was driving. Right, and the authorities had traced him to that Jeep. Right, right, because that was on the news. That was on the radio. The jazz gentleman mentioned that off the news machine. Got to hotwire the car. This was a good gag, too. The idea of him seeing the keys. Oh, and this is... You don't see this. We do this really good shot. And the Canadians would put so many American flags on everything. Yeah. Because they felt that that's what America was all about. We wanted to be an American movie. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Kevin MacDonald coming up. Yes. Who? The great Kevin MacDonald. Yes. Yeah. He's behind the counter. This is another one of those scenes I love. I love this scene. Yeah. And this is a scene that's just totally just... I don't think you could do it with anyone but Kevin. Right. Yeah. Yeah.

[28:54]

He's bleeding. He's trying to come up with a name. Got one. Finally thought of it. Very long name. And the American Eagle that you can't, doesn't really look like an American Eagle. No, no. Still right. They really tried to American it up. There's the flag. There we go. In advance, Mr. Cal. Cali. Cali. See, that was the money given by the lady who was insane and had tried to serve him mice. Squeaks and... It was squeaks and something, and it was actually literally mice in a plate. Squeaks and peeps with a nickname. And David horribly painted this house where it's over the windows. Yeah. I was like... And the line's still in here, I think. I painted a house. No, we looped it as I mended a fence. Oh, right. That worked perfectly. No one missed it.

[30:43]

Another great take by Dave to not see it the first time and have to come back. A Canadian. We Americans wouldn't say 4-0, they'd say 40. Yeah. Kind of ruined the film for me. Yeah. Placed it in Canada. You had a rotary phone? Yep. Well, this is an old movie. Yeah, I forgot. 20 years ago, they didn't have push-button phones? They did, but still had plenty. No, no, right. Cleveland. Cleveland. Well, we're outside of Cleveland at this point. Yeah. Oh, was I ever so sexy? Yes. The towel on the wrap on your head. Always a great time. This was Jay and I making sure you didn't get delayed. We said, let's really make Dave wear no shirt. Damn! And a banner graphic. One of the greatest newspapers ever. If only the props department had put... I think it's because we changed the city on them. It's another strange coincidence. Yeah. Right, this is full of coincidences. And that was part of the idea. People would say, I think if you're questioning that... Well, Hitchcock uses coincidences. Yeah, no, a lot. That's how we are. Oh, and then we have a great action scene coming up soon as well. The train? This whole thing. Well, also we have the gunfight. The gunfight. The two, it was sort of a John Woo style shooting. And here's another recurring gag coming. Yeah. This was difficult. We had to try to figure out how he distracts them. And then we had to sell this. This was great. This all worked really well. And he's a priest. I love that idea. Every cliche we can find. Your ankle was healed by then. Nope. No, it just hurt? Yeah.

[33:35]

Well, if you're not used to the guns. No, no, no. But he did go through training. They gave him a little training. Running serpentine. Serpentine. It already was out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a stun man. Yeah. Oh, way to go, Jay. Thank you. And he does the great kick-the-door move to close it. He was thrilled that he learned that. I remember that, yeah. See, this water from my wife is a reminder that we have to be somewhere else. Oh! It isn't just for my health. Well, now we're getting to the point in the film. Another five minutes. And this was a gag that I remember Martin... we want to do this gag, Martin gives it. Is it worth it? Yes. Is this gag really worth it? Yes. Is this joke worth it? Oh, yeah. Over and over again. Yes. The train had kind of a big wind to it. It was difficult. Yeah, yeah. If you watch the film, he's Dave Foley there. He's not Nelson Hibbard. It's Dave with this giant train driving by him. Trying not to fall off that box.

[34:51]

I love this game. This is also your stunt. That was me. We had a stuntman do a version of that, but we wanted to use your stunt, which actually wasn't... You bounced. He rolled. I remember first production said, I couldn't do it. And then the compromise was, okay, we'll have the stuntman do one, then you do one, then the stuntman will do one, then you'll do... What was the point?

[35:20]

And again, this was, for me, as the idea of, I would never be able to catch the moving train. Right. You know, every movie. Right. And the fact that it stops almost immediately. You did not have to run after it. You could have walked up to it. And coming up again, one of my favorite gags, you've got the train car full of food. He's throwing up. He's starving. He's starving. And then the shot of Dave taking the huge bite out of the canned ham, which is coming up here. And this is also the start of an incredibly long sequence with no dialogue. That's right. Which I love. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like right from the starting of the shooting, there's not a word of dialogue. Thompson canned ham. He's a little hungry. You could tell by Dave doing that. He sells the idea. This was our nod to Scott Thompson, I believe. Yes. Hello. We've got a problem. Remember that guy who walked in on me in Nagel's office? Hammer? Yeah, I guess so. He's been trailing me since Cleveland. He's everywhere I go when he brings the coffee. It's nice how he had to change his clothes to pretend to be. Exactly. He's very professional. Well, he is a professional. Mark McKinney, another kid in the hall, was also in this show. He had a scene. And we had to cut it out. He was very funny. He was like the brother-in-law you had called for help. He's a friend who barely knows me. Oh, right, right, right. He barely knows me who I call to borrow money from. He says, I hardly know you. He said, that's the brilliance of it. No one would think you were the tracer. Yeah, yeah. Look at that hair. What was the hardest part of directing this movie? What was the most, conceptually? Getting up at 7 in the morning. Sure. And then making it to the dinner reservation. Sure. Then having to... Having to make our day to be able to get to the dinner. And remember, I was recently single. Right. Yes. And you were trying to fix... Were you? Yes, yes. You were always single. But you tried to fix me up with a newscaster, a woman who was on the air. Oh, yes. Which was your fantasy when you were trying to get me to... Oh, here's the, yeah, here's, we have the canned ham with a bite out of it. How many canned ham do you need? Yeah, a lot of cans. Yeah. Whole shipment of tainted ham. How do you feel now? And then this, I mean, we had a whole thing with this. Right. We had originally said... It was Johnson and, we wanted a Johnson and Johnson package. Oh, this is enema bag. Yes. It was enema bag Johnson. And it was going to be enema bag Johnson because it was Johnson and Johnson. And they decided they didn't like being in the business of making enema. They didn't want to be, yeah. They didn't want to be associated with enema bags. And we said, well, you shouldn't make them. So then we had to come up with a new name. This is so great. Jones. Mr. Enema Bag Jones. And again, we didn't show Johnson & Johnson being the enema bag. And we could have gone to Enema Bag Simpson. Yeah, exactly. We didn't know, but we were already past it. I've got to go, guys. All right. I have to go to an opening of a house that... She won't be happy whenever I get there. Okay. Oh, your wife said you don't have to go yet. Yeah. She knows. 30 minutes. You got another half hour. Yeah. She's telling me to go. All right. All right. Yeah. This is fun. God, I'd love to see you. She's actually saying no. She's saying you don't have to go for another half hour. Because here's your scene coming up. This is you. She's saying, oh, stay. Yeah, stay. Okay, all right. Quick, quick headset back on. This is you. This is actually... Coming up, coming up. Because, again, we're going off the Hitchcock. It'll be coming up, but yes. But, again, it's going off the Hitchcock parody idea. We had to have David in the film. Yes, because Hitchcock... It's like Hitchcock did, yes. And this was a scene that took a while, was the whole idea of the clothes. Don't we do that? Yes. Oh, this guy, Larry Slick. I like this. When you come up here... Take the slow speed. Yeah. That was hilarious. We had to work that out. We weren't sure exactly what was going to be funny. It wasn't. Yes, yes. And then this guy. This is a scene I enjoy so much. If you look closely, you can see me almost crack. Yeah. It's the idea of... not waking up this guy at all and you're just going to quickly make as much noise as you can laughing

[40:58]

And again, the idea of this gag that... And I... It does play. The idea of he's still close with this old man and then he's in the old man outfit. And then it's not fashionable enough.

[41:26]

a nice reveal. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, I can't do that. And then we also have to have his character be in clothing for the rest of the movie. For the rest of the movie. For establishing the look. Okay. Yeah. And we play it like that. Every guy who's on the run gets the nice outfit that he puts on and, you know... Oh, that's right. Now he's got the photo to identify you to other people. Yeah. And that was... We shot that with the fake zebra. This is all the clothes he stole. He went to basically every room in the hospital and stole clothing, and now he's going to choose. And then, of course, for me, it's the idea that he's taking those clothes, and now when he gets stopped and they think he's a surgeon. Right. What were you going to say, Jay? No, no. Oh. I think I'm in one of these. You're coming up. You're coming up. You're holding a newspaper and a neck brace. When Dave grabs it. So the cops have come in. Give me that. I love the idea that you're in the neck brace and he's shoving his elbow into the neck brace. Fine. And we have the killer actually doing open heart surgery. Making an attempt. Yeah. To save the cops. Yeah. And it doesn't work. He's not good at it. He's not really good. He's not a doctor. No, he's a killer. He's an actual killer. He's the opposite. And they're consoling him so he can't escape yet. What's going to happen in this next frame is something that I do in real life. Quite often. Oh, yes. Jay always liked to do this. I like to exit a place where there's a big picture window and then be seen running through the big picture window in the background. There. Yes. That's how you would leave the set every day. Yes. Well, when I first met Jay, I think he did that, where it was that gag. And he would continue. Again, we have another really good, fine actor here, Enrique... Enrico Colantoni. Yes. who does this great sequence that we went through. It's the idea of he's every conspiracy theory. Yeah, he does tons of movies. Yeah, he does. He does a lot of television work and movies, and he's fantastic. He has Just Shoot Me. And this was Jay's theory, I believe. It is my theory. There were no gunmen at all. Kennedy's head just did that. Really? Oh, and this was the one where we tried to get him to drive a little faster. We wanted because... The stunt. He throws Foley out of the car. He throws Dave out of the car. And this idea, we kept trying to get him to go a little faster. A little faster. And I think we did get him finally on this take that we used to go as fast as they possibly would. Including man-made viruses. Oh, God. Rico's so good. Yeah. Absolutely. Many common household items can be used as deadly weapons. This is Charlie Cogan's favorite line coming up. Charlie likes this scene. How? Which we use as a callback later in the film, which is nice, yes. You've been a great help to me. Look, do you have a list of Cuban assassins? He just shifts in his... His shirt, as you can see, is kind of Cuban. I just noticed now. I just noticed right now. He's wearing sort of a... Yeah, that's it. That was a controversial... Well, again, there we go, yeah. That was very good. Yeah, very good. And I remember we had to rewrite it because we'd originally said New York and then we had this journey and then... We just have to find cities on a map. Right. Change it. Near Cleveland. Hospital. Could he be more Canadian? Well, I tell you, Mr. Steinberg did a lot of work to try to get the Canadian out of people because we're supposed to be in America. Hospital. This is one that was 30 years or, well, 10 years in the making at that point. The gag you wanted to do for a long time. This was a gag I saw in California. We saw these machines that filled up those giant waters. And they put so much water so fast. And the idea of... I had this idea and I just wanted to put it in something. And we nearly killed Dave. We did. We did. Because there's a huge amount of water coming out of him. And they had said, don't worry, we've got it controlled. It's not that much. And nearly broke his neck. But what a great gag. You held up very well. Dearly choked and nearly broke his neck. It's great to see the film after not having seen it for so long. It was so much fun. No, and it looked beautiful. I mean, really pretty. This is, again, Ontario for Central Ohio. Kansas. Kansas. We're already in Kansas. Jennifer Tilly. Jennifer Tilly. Beautiful, lovely. She can't be perfect because it's a comedy. Yes. So our choice, of course. When we were writing it, we were trying to come up, we wanted it in perfection. And finally we settled on Narcolepsy, which I thought worked really well. Very unique. Yeah. And it doesn't cost a lot. No, not at all. It's a cheap gag. It's a really cheap gag. But then we had to do the stunt with the truck. So that was, yeah. This is... Yeah. I like that he gives up. This is my wife's least favorite line is coming up. Uh-huh. Not from around here, are you? What makes you say that? Is that it? No. I've lived here all my life, and I've never seen you before. Oh, then no, I'm not from around here. Where are you from? Oh, that doesn't matter. The real question is, where am I going? Oh, where are you going? Can't say. Oh. Is that the one she hates? When she says, do you think I'm pretty? Yeah. We did tend to play up Dave not being masculine. Yes. Quite a bit in the script and in the shooting. It's hard to do that. And as a director, I just couldn't get him there. No, no.

[48:39]

I don't have very many friends. Oh, yeah, this was the idea. This was all from James. He loved the idea of people not being friendly from small towns. Oh, yeah. And the idea of the evil farmer as opposed to the evil banker. There must be a lot of men in here. I hope you don't mind me saying this, but you're a very beautiful woman. You think so? Yeah. Lynn hates that. She didn't like that. She just said that. Well, also because the character's named Lynn. Oh, right. Which was named after her, yes. So she didn't like that part. Oh. Yeah, also. Oh, narcolepsy. Yeah, narcolepsy. If you look at it, the fence falls apart before the car gets to it. That was very hard to pull off. That was really hard to pull off. As a director, it's a signature, I'm sure. Illogical stuff will bring you into it. Oh, look at the little trickle of blood. Again, we're very concerned. Not too much blood on Dave. Right, right. We'll go back to my house and I'll bandage that cut. Maybe I should drive. Don't be silly. You don't know the way. Which, again, is a good line. The idea is she just fell asleep at the wheel. Right. Yeah. God. Oh, it's beautiful. Dave Macon was... Yes, Dave Macon, one of the many Daves. Yeah. Did a great job shooting it. Yeah, but wow, was he... He just was so fast and everything looked so beautiful. It was great. Mm-hmm. And this got a laugh when people watched it. Oh, she knocked the fence down. That wasn't the point, but yes, it makes sense. I'm going to go, guys. Thank you. Are you hydrated? I'm hydrated. What a great thing. What a great thing. I love it. So will this ever be in a theater somewhere? Well, it's going to be on Blu-ray. People are watching this on Blu-ray at this point. That's good. And they're hearing this commentary. Which means they're looking at home theaters. Yes. This is right now hearing the plan. Yes, yes. They're hearing this as a commentary. Well, I'm going to run out and get this Blu-ray. Exactly. We will get us all to my house. All right. All of us. You're all around, right? Well, yeah. We will be. We'll figure it out. But don't mention this on the Blu-ray. Okay. Bye, guys. By David Steinberg. The director extraordinaire. He has to take off. Very much in the same style he directed the movie. Leaving the room. That's true.

[51:36]

And again, I love this idea that this woman in trouble, you look like you need help, and then not being the one. A lot of expectations defeated in every scene. I don't follow. But we get there eventually. Right. Well, you turn around. There's a difference. Yeah, you become that person that you want to be.

[52:08]

Can't do any heavy lifting. Oh, backpack? No. Look. That was a gag that we loved. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Nelson. Oh, where will you go? I don't know. Down the road. Maybe I'll scrounge a meal from a dumpster. Find an old cardboard box to sleep in. And the realization... that this might not be the best thing for him to do. It's not that he really cares for her, but the idea of how horrible his life will be on the road turns him around to help her because she's got a house. And again, coming up, this gag. And it was the idea of the song, we could clear the song. He's gay, huh? Gay? No, Billy is not gay. The pom-poms on the wall. Yeah, yeah. The unicorn poster. Oh. All right, yeah. And then we, Dave picked this song. Mm-hmm. As... It's the perfect, it's the gayest song of its time. This was not intended to be homophobic at all. Not at all. It was a commentary on people not recognizing their loved ones. Especially in small town life. Right, right. This is another funny comedian. Crazy Boy Banks. Yeah. Smart. Super smart. Most likely a genius. It's not the same guy. The guy I saw stuck his head in the water machine.

[54:02]

Yeah, well, that's him all right. He was here a while ago. Sure he's not an idiot? Quite sure. I love this gag, too. I mean, the idea of... There's a lot of gags. Every couple of seconds, there's a gag. But this idea that we had was the idea that the cop coming in with a siren and it's just stuck. My siren's stuck again! They pull into a filling station. It happens. It happens. Oh, and the fence has been repaired by Nelson helping out. Already? Yeah, yeah. He did a job. We had all those gone. Do we see him? Can we see him fix this later? At this point, we see him actually at this point. Here we go. Who fixed the fence? All right. But we did have a montage of you trying to fix the fence and gluing it together. Did we do that? Did we see that? No, I think it was always like this. Yeah. Oh, there you are. Yeah, yeah. Because he's just there with the Elmer's glue. Tons of bottles of it. The great Joe Flaherty. Joe Flaherty. Well, she's got a big heart. Oh, you must be your father. Hi, nice to meet you. You're holding the one to dry. See, that would be the idea. He's done this two other times.

[55:30]

And a beautiful farmhouse. I love this house, yeah. And again, he's not eating. No. Right. And they can only eat canned food. Well, we've established that. We didn't just have this come out of nowhere that you served a canned ham. You can't afford refrigeration. Search yourself.

[56:02]

Nelson, I know that Lynn told you that you could be our handyman, but I'm going to have to let you go. Daddy. No, that's all right. I understand. I just want to thank you, though, for your graciousness, your warmth, and your hospitality. This has been the happiest time of my life, and whatever happens to me... This last... Three hours. Yeah. Four hours. And the idea of Joe Flaherty, the country banker. The idea of the country banker. All the low interest rates and the federal controls and all those damn wealthy farmers trying to shut me down. I do have an MBA from an Ivy League college. I mean, it's not strictly Ivy League. I mean, but it was near Harvard. You had to take the same bus that you took to get to Harvard. Not that anybody at Harvard ever took the bus. Normally, it's not a good idea to take a total stranger, a hobo, and put him in a responsible position at the bank, but... I love this speech, this whole thing, yeah. ...the owner of Fred Holden Savings and Loan, and... A little sweet little music. And coming up, yeah. Tomorrow, you start at the bank. And coming up, one of the greatest, the lighting in the next scene. Oh, right. It was hard to get, but we had a vision for it, and it came through very well. She was a good sport, too. Yeah. I think we see that there's a... poster on top of that. At the end. Right. Yes? Fred? I don't know. Oh. And then, then it gets rid of the effect, and now I better, it's a little harsh. He really is a miserable person. Yeah. There you are. Ah, Jennifer. Oh.

[58:55]

See, he does have humanity. But this moment. Yes, it's a sweet moment. We could have used more of these moments. This is good. This is... People can hang on to a story with emotion. We have emotion. There's just some. That's it right there. I don't think that's what's wrong with this film. From here on, their romance builds. Oh, there's nothing. Don't get me wrong. There's nothing wrong with this movie. I am trying to say the testing, the reason we wanted to get it released more, it didn't test in certain ways. It would have passed testing. I think it's really funny. Well, I thought... We were always along the idea that three good laughs makes a comedy. I agree. Yeah. And this scene was, again, where we had to... Wild dogs. Remember, we tried to get wild dogs. It was going to be a wolf. It was going to be a wolf, yeah. Well, it becomes just a dog. Just a dog. It's a very small dog. Originally, it was a pack of wolves. A border collie. He had to fight, and then he becomes the leader of the pack. Yeah. Yeah. But all we could get was a border collie. Mm-hmm.

[1:00:02]

This is very, you know, there's some movie, Cape Fear is right off of that. Well, sir, we have no reason to believe he's anywhere in New York. Well, maybe that's what he'd like us to believe. What's his name? Oh, I don't know. Call Ticketmaster and get us two tickets to that Moby Dick musical. Moby. Yes, sir. Better yet, make it four tickets and call one of those... And this was, again, there was a... There was an issue with the idea. We had a fake one. We had the Moby musical. Then Disney told us that we needed to use the Beauty and the Beast musical. Then they said, no, we don't like the script. Don't use Beauty and the Beast. But we made our own Beauty and the Beast. We wrote this song. I co-wrote this song. Yes. We just basically stole Beauty and the Beast. Which is hilarious. Yeah. This is the only change the whole bank had done was the idea of this chair. Again, we like that. A new pen somewhere? Yeah, a new pen. Well, frankly, I miss the old chair. Oh, we love. So, your uniform's in the locker. Uniform? Yeah. I mean, it's just because Joe Flaherty was such a hero. Oh, yes. Yeah, I know. We were thrilled to have him. Please, please don't kill me. I'm just begging you not to kill me. And again, going off the idea of the canned food. They can't have no refrigeration, so she brings lunch, but it's canned. Yeah. I wish we did that very well. The whole idea of the spaghetti was that we'll be on her later. That was done. And, of course, the evil farmer. Yes, Alan Scarf. Right. And what's the Jebediah? Is that the name of the... That's his assistant. You can't hold out much longer. Your note's due in 30 days. We'll make it. We're doing just fine. Maybe so. But it'd be a shame if people around here started to lose confidence in the bank. If certain facts became public. What facts? What do you think of this, young man? Tell me your share of the bank now and your investors will get some of their money back. I gotta say, I do love the idea that... Grant me a fresh crop of corn. And he says it so well as well. Yeah, it's just like a filthy corn. I like that they costumed him well. Like a farmer, but still a fancy farmer. Yeah, yeah. And of course, again, too many SpaghettiOs. More than a can's full. But you've got to sell it. Yeah, you're making a movie. You can't just put one. We're going to need a miracle. I need it fast. Again, this is great. He's sitting in the chair. I wish I could have been there for you. Oh, honey, just having you here lying on the floor unconscious was comfort enough. Thank you, Daddy. It's growing. Oh, this beautiful golden hour, and it's a great gag. Everything's so wonderful. We've shown this beautiful field. Mm-hmm. That's nice. I think I'm falling in love with you. That's a bad idea, Lynn. Why? This is hard for me to say. This gag's very Buster Keaton. Mm-hmm. Yeah. I can't. You see? I can't. The crime of murder. Lynn? Oh, that was the other thing. It wasn't that tall of... The idea was it was supposed to be in this really tall, but at that point in Ontario, the wheat wasn't that high. And we shot at the golden hour and there's like a rush to get it done because the sun was perfect and...

[1:05:04]

of comedy relief. I know that. Often requested comedy relief. I've been in your family for generations. Soon that land will be a pasture for dairy cattle, and there's nothing you can do about it. Very wise decision. The papers will be ready to sign in the morning. Again, this is when we first got cordless phones. You're allowed not to have to be stuck to the cord on a phone. We could use that. Please call us on the number flashing on your screen. I don't know if people realize this little-known fact, those 559 numbers don't go anywhere. It's a very well-known fact, I think. I think it's really well-known. I thought it was one of those little-known facts. In fact, it kind of destroys the reality of movies now. Yeah, I guess you're right. Well, I consider myself a pretty good judge of people. Except for that one guy who said he was an advanced scout for an alien invasion force, but it turned out he just wanted to get in my pants. I just don't think you're the kind of person that could commit a murder. Thanks. That means a lot. I'm starting to have some very strong feelings for you. The sort of feelings I've never had for anyone that... I think we did cut out some idea that, no, you just wouldn't be physically capable. Mm-hmm. of committing murder and made it more scary. Isn't that coming up somewhere? No, I think that line was in there before the kiss. We think we cut it out before. Sorry, we just got a call. Hold it. Richard Chevalier. Richard Chevalier. Yes, yes. Yes. He did a great job as Jimmy, yes. Yes. He carried the reality of every scene you were in. Mm-hmm. How could you let this happen? And you, what was the orchestra you... Seattle. We went up to Seattle to record the Seattle Orchestra, the score, the whole score, and singers. My idea. I thought it was a good way to throw suspicion off me. Do the police suspect you? Is this the first time we reveal that Dan Redican is the villain? I think so. Yes, yes. No, no, no, when he calls. Oh, when he calls from the telephone pole. Why was there... Telephone pole. Yeah. I'm the only one who loves that. He dreams of solid gold pumps. That doesn't make a lot of sense. No, it doesn't at all. But we did like the mobile command. Yes. That was nice. We had the windows closed so that we could film it without moving. Right. Like what? You know, creepy. Allergy. Jimmy, notify the locals that we're coming. On my signal, we move in and apprehend the suspect. Right.

[1:08:23]

A great scene stolen from It's a Wonderful Life. Yes. It's true. You got it from us. Charlie loved this. Yeah, I had to foreclose on it. Well, it wasn't a good idea, was it? Look, the money from this bank is in that town. Now you're not going to risk your lives for one stupid reason. Yeah, yeah.

[1:09:23]

Hold on! Hold on! Just wait a minute! Just wait a minute! Wait a minute! This is weird. Well, how did they sneak out? There was a lot of discussion. A killer? No. No, no, no, no, no. I'm an alleged killer. Yes, I did threaten him. My prints were all over the murder weapon, but that's just because I pulled it out of his skull. Yeah. Not helping. I had to scream so loud. Yes. Because there was so much noise in the place from the atmosphere. Everybody was making a lot of noise. You couldn't pantomime? No, because they wouldn't shut up for the rest of the scene. So it was the idea of me stopping them with my voice. Yeah, this became a whole thing of how do they get out. Walking backwards. Walking backwards saying, where's my money? Yeah, he went that way. Oh. This is the... So he fit in because, thank God. He's dressed like the old-timey banker, so of course he fits in with the... Gotta be going to the Barbershop Quartet Convention. Same bus, I believe? I believe so, yes. 97? Mm-hmm. And then he gets picked up again because he looked like... And here's the mistake, though. this emotionally disturbed veterans retreat. It was written as Emotionally Disturbed Veterans Convention. Right. Which is funnier than a retreat, because there might be a retreat. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it makes sense. But right, it didn't, yeah, disturbed. It couldn't fit the word convention on the sign, I'm guessing. No, I think it was just a mistake. Yeah. It was just... Can't fight love. It's the most powerful of all emotions. That's it. We know you know who he is and where he went, so tell us. I can tell you this. The Nelson Hibbert I know is incapable of murder. Not morally, but physically. There it is. You're right. Yeah. This is the man we're looking for. Well, I thought you wanted Nelson. The man you want came to the bank right before the police got here. I haven't seen him before or since. Lynn. Uh-huh? Look, we're going to be on the run together, right? Right. And let's face it, I think there's some pretty strong feelings going on here. Yeah. and there's just something I want to get settled. Oh, don't worry, I have condoms. No, that's not it. It's not? Good. I just need to make a phone call. Oh. Oh, right, this is the idea, the scene you're gonna break up with your girlfriend, the, you worked with. And she's already. She's married, we have her showing her like. And there's our two tea bags and she blacks paper called. Right, the callback from earlier, yes.

[1:12:42]

Another stunt coming up, the big stunt with the... Coming out of the back of the bus. Coming out of the back of the bus. I have something important to tell you. Yeah, we'd originally had her, like, going on the honeymoon at this point. Like, you see the wedding dress on the bed and, yeah. I think I'm falling in love. I'm sorry it just happened. I'm sorry it just happened.

[1:13:11]

He's wonderful. Didn't we originally have him sliding off on the door or something like that? Yeah. The way she flicks her tongue when we kiss. Not one of our greatest stunts. No. There was a lot of those. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, we had... Freeze! Put down your weapon. No. You put down yours or I blow a hole through this guy's... All right, we're in Oklahoma now at this point in the film. I don't know if you see that Oklahoma State Trooper uniform. Not really. And then it's on the side of the vehicle. I forget that you are an expert on all of the state trooper uniforms. Yes, I actually collect them. And I could tell you anybody. I like him talking the policeman down. What if I put down my gun, walk away, and you don't kill me? You do like that. You like the way he played it? No, I just like the idea that he was able to talk him down. into being a coward. Because we know all the Oklahoma State Police are cowards. I don't know if I'd go that far, Jay. I thought that's what our research showed. Jay Kogan. I don't know if I'd say that. I think they're all brave, great young men. I'm not sure. No, you're not. And this is actually where your foot really was hurting when we shot this. It might have been the first thing we shot. I bought more condoms. Hey, thanks for the condoms. See ya. Nelson? I left my home for you. Well, now you can go back. See ya. Why are you acting this way? And who's this? Oh, just another meaningless... He's only hurting her just to save her. To save her, yes. And that was... Really slap. But that's... Remember, I kept trying to get her to slap me harder. Harder, yes. But the first take... I said, you really got to hit me hard. She said, I can't. I said, no, you really got to hit me. And then she all of a sudden hit me really hard. And then I looked at her and she started tearing up. Yes, yes. And she started crying. And I said, don't cry, don't cry, you'll have to hit me again. Yeah, yeah. Oh, and this was the Walidarski we have on the truck. Yes. Wally Walidarski. It's a tip of the hat. Yes, yes. I'm sorry, Mark, what is it? Mark Wallace Walidarski. Yeah. From the Simpsons. That's right. Oh, bad idea alert. Get in. I love that line, too. Oh, actually, you guys were writing partners on the Tracy Ellman show first. We do. So that's a tip to Wally. We went to high school with Wally Wolodarski, good friend. He put me in one of his movies. That was nice. Oh, that's nice. You were in that same movie, Cold Blooded. Yes, I was in that. That was a Wally Wolodarski movie, yeah. Mark Wallace, Wally Wolodarski. You said a manicurist had no useful role in a police investigation. Let's move out. I like that, too. He's really, he seems to be scamming the system. I don't know if that was intentional. That was intentional, yes. Was that something with the script that we wrote? We had intended him to use this as an opportunity. Right. No, they don't. Yes. Oh, and this was hard. We had those glares on this. It was a hard one to edit, but we had these great takes. Which was painted a house. You're right, yeah. And it's You can't even tell. No. Beautiful looping. Yeah. I don't know what you are. Some kind of highly trained G-man or part of some super secret elite force of international super cops. Wow, super cop. I just thought it would be up to me to get a job to support us. Once we get to Mexico, I'm going to ransom you. If I have to, I'll shoot you. No, you're wrong. You've got this thing wrong. I'm a nobody, all right? I'm just an ordinary guy. A guy that has just risked the life of the most wonderful woman in the world. I am an idiot. I am a complete idiot. No, you're not. If I really believed that, I'd have to pull over, hogtie you, and shoot you in the back of the head. Well... It looks like Secret Agent 10 of that... Oh, and this was Mr. Tiny's America. Again, this was the term in Canada, of course, is mini-golf. We always call it miniature golf here. Oh, and this was... The water was on fire. I remember it was so hot, and they kept saying, like, don't worry, we turned it down. But I'm like, it's burning my skin off of me. because they didn't want it to be too cold for me. And then we found the worst miniature golf course of all time. Yes, we did. But the best one in Canada. Yeah, but we couldn't... All unique holes. They had no unique holes. It was just like... No, so we had to then make these unique holes. It was just greens and a hole. There was no, like, art direction. This was one of my... I love this gag. It was the idea, but it was supposed to be like... Alamo car alarms. Right. Remember the Alamo car alarms. Our motto, yeah. Our motto, remember the Alamo car alarms. If either of you speak... That sign was big. I'll kill you. What about signaling people when we're not speaking or running? Yes, I'll kill you for signaling. But if I hadn't brought it up, you'd have never said anything. And I like this guy, too. Do you understand? Oh, like I really feel open to asking you questions right now. See, Lynn and Nelson are very well met. They really are more relaxed. They really are. Oh. So it's all coming together. It seems like everything's coming to a head here. Mr. Tiny seems like Mr. Monopoly in many ways. Yeah. I thought you wanted to. I always like that line. And there's the other album. Right. Well, I believe... Does this take place in Texas? Is that what's the idea at this point, right? Yeah. So we're almost in Mexico. There's a tunnel. Right. Well, this was the idea in the original as well that we'd make our way to Mexico. It was also funny because you're on the Canadian border and then he makes his way to Mexico. Yeah. Which we thought was...

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Again, I love this line, the idea of when she comes in. He's going to find a way to capture the killer and get us to safety. Shut up. He's got to tell Lynn now. I heard, I heard. Jennifer has great time. She does. And this whole thing, I love this idea of. I would never marry just to further my career. You don't know this. That's a great concept as well. There you go. $500,000. I thought it would be funny if it was like a small stack. Like a giant briefcase with one little, there it is. $10,000. No, $500,000. You don't need the big suitcase for it. Right. You'll never get away with this. Of course I will. Oh, and then he gives him a horrible passport. It's Iraqi or whatever, or Iranian passport. Yeah. He's playing three-dimensional chess. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Good shot for a businessman. Yeah. Thanks for saving my life. I'm not going to save your life. As soon as I kill him, I'm going to kill you, too. No. You're going to save me. You double-crossed bastard.

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I love this line. Idea of... You solved the mystery. They don't get it. really should do something about those gunshots. All right, let's roll. The glory of the old South, cotton candy. Yeah. I'm commandeering this vehicle, official police business. It's an emergency. Move it. Go sit on that bench over there. I had to make sure it was very slow. Yeah.

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Give me that. You could have walked it. Yes, I could have easily. I think there was a joke in that. It was the idea that I didn't want to walk that, you know. We know you're in there. We've got you surrounded. Up the ladder. I always had wanted to do bullhorn humor. I get to do that here. This is a tribute to Hitchcock. This is, yeah, the other Sabotage. Was it Sabotage? I believe it's Sabotage. Yes, it was Sabotage. Yes. With Dana Andrews. Yeah, Dana Andrews. Cummings? Robert Cummings? Or was it Joel McRae? I thought it was Robert Cummings. Or Robert Cummings. Was it? Robert Cummings. You could look that up, I suppose. I think it was Joel McRae. Oh, that's Foreign Correspondent, you're thinking. That's what I'm thinking. Yeah. Stay back or the super cop gets it. What super cop? The super cop I'm holding hostage. Are you saying you have a third hostage we cannot... You're not a super cop, are you? You're just an ordinary idiot. No, I'm... No, I'm sorry, Lynn. I'm not a super cop. I kind of figured. I just didn't want to embarrass you in front of the killer. All right! That's sweet. Another sweet moment. These two human lives are valuable, right? what do you suggest give yourself up How does that help me? I don't know. I can hear you. All right, here's my idea. Safe passage across the border. A million dollars in cash. And a helicopter. Wait. Why? I've always wanted to ride in a helicopter. Your helicopter is on the way. I don't... And Colm played that so well. Yeah. The realism of the scene and the comic timing, it works really so well. Yeah. Saboteur is the movie, and Robert Cummings is the star. Is Robert Cummings, all right. He was also Love That Bob, the star of that show. He had a flying car. What the hell are you doing? The third, or fourth callback of the movie. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. And again, we like that idea, too, of the idea of putting your... Which I've seen that something like that happens since, but it's the idea of putting your finger in a bone hole. Right, well, Penn... Quinn Tarantino seems to like to do something like that. Which I think he probably ripped it off from us. From us? Yeah. I'm sure he's seen the film. He'll probably be listening to this commentary. Yeah, he's going to be excited that we mentioned him. I bet he is. He's a great filmmaker. Well, Kids in the Hall, we... We did a sketch where we copied Reservoir Dogs, and I had dinner with him once, and he was very excited that that was based on it. The Fell on My Keys, of course, was an homage to the producers. Sure. Just doing my job. I do, however, have a few questions. Gene Wilder falls, and then I fell on my keys. Spent some time in New York City. Yes. Well, Bob and I are going up there next week, and I was wondering if you could suggest a show. Of course. Moby the Musical, a must-see. Beauty and the Beast was terrific. Really? The candlestick looks just like a candlestick. Teapot looks a lot like a candlestick. So, I guess you'll be taking your million dollar reward and leaving me forever. Oh. Okay. Sir? Oh, there's no need to thank me. I just did what any good citizen would do. Uh, that's our blanket. You don't have I see some music. Mm-hmm. An epiphany? No, no. It was more like a realization, but on a grand scale. An epiphany. No, no. It had, like, religious proportions to it. This was a really good take to Citizen Kane. Citizen Kane. The classic Kids in the Hall sketch, which I believe Dave had something to do with that. I don't know. I did. I was in it and wrote it. It was empty and it was ugly. With Kevin. Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah. I did not know that. Life was real. You know, I felt for the first time that I belonged somewhere. This was the reshoot? No, not yet, because I'm still there. Only on the high angle shot. We do this high angle crane shot that we couldn't afford on the first run. Cleveland sounds good to me. But we get married. Right. This is the reshoot. Yeah. This was reshoot. Oh, right, because Dave, the first time he kissed her... It was so not sexual that we felt we had to reshoot it. I don't think that was the problem. I don't think that was the problem. The audience has walked out on the kiss. They said, what is that? I don't think that was the problem. It's like he really hates women. I think. There was a weird thing about the testing and then Jennifer did a great job. It was very good. Yeah. And Dave nearly killed himself because he does not have a lot of upper body strength. No, that was great. As you could see when he showed the shirtless scene. So you know that there was one. And then this is the whole soundtrack. I hear the whole song. Written by Jay Kogan. Well, no, with Lauren Schrag. With Lauren Schrag. Sorry, yes. Yeah, Richard Chival. Yeah, all these great people. I've got to say, you know, I haven't seen the film. We shot it 20 years ago. I haven't seen it in about five years. Yeah. And so... If you get an old copy of it... Well, if it's in their commentary, we remembered a lot more at that one. But also... Don't even buy this one that you're watching. We said, fuck, I believe in that commentary as well. And so Disney wouldn't put it on the American one. It's only on the Canadian. Oh, all right. Oh, yes. Yeah. We had... There should be stuff about these people that we remember. Nancy Colson de Sevilla, the seamstress. She did a great job. Playback was great. Video playback was huge. We loved the sound guys. They were all great. Everybody was great. It was a fantastic crew. I honestly don't remember anybody. You really don't remember anybody? The sound guys? None. None. You guys used to have regular poker games with the crew. We did, but I don't remember them. They were great guys, all of them. Ted, do you remember Ted Hanlon? Oh, Ted, Ted. I don't remember him at all. He was injured during this roll of credits. That's right. His actual name was injured. And then we did have the... Oh, Dave Staples, yes. And Stuart Mitch Mitchell, one of the best drivers. There were a lot of good drivers. I don't remember. And Jay and I had a tendency to make fun of Canada a lot. A lot, because Canadians were very... self-conscious about making sure that we knew what was great about Canada. Right, and they'd always say things like, the greatest in North America, when we know they meant just greater than the United States. They had some, just, it was a little, you know, it's a little different. Canada's just a little different. David and I shared a house together. We did. Oh, that's right, we did. Apparently you got your own. I had my own, yeah, because I was single. I was single. I needed my freedom. Sure. Right. Well, Jay used to, it was weird. Every time I'd be in the shower, he'd come in acting like, oh, I just have to, I was going to wash my hands. I just wanted to conserve water. I wanted to conserve water and shower together. And he'd get in the shower with me. What's wrong with that? And I thought, there's no drought here. Toronto had plenty of water. I care about the environment. Well, it didn't seem to be environmental concern, more of just your wanting to see me nude. That's why he wrote that scene into the shower scene. Well, where I shower, yes. All right, that's it. Good work, guys. Show's over. Thanks, David. Yeah. David Steinberg, great job. Thanks. David Steinberg. Thank you all. Yeah.

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